This is the transcript for the video Secondary Education
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, good afternoon, everyone. I’m going to start the webinar. Now I would like to welcome you to this undergraduate study webinar, which is going to give you some details of the combined teaching degree in secondary education. We’re very excited about this new offering in the school of international studies and education in the faculty of arts and social sciences at UTS and such a lovely afternoon. I think spring is definitely here. I’m also going to be joined by my cohost George Harb. George was I head teacher of science in a high school and he still is in regular touch with his school and he’s going to be joining. And combining in giving you details of this new undergraduate program. My name is dr. Jane Hunter, and I’m a researcher and teacher in the school of international studies and education. And like my cohost George, who will be joining us in one moment, I was a head teacher in schools for many years.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I still have very strong links to classroom practice. And most recently I’ve completed research in studying STEM and steam in schools. And you might be wondering what that curious little graphic is that sitting behind me. Well, that sat that’s, that’s the graphic that sitting in the last chapter of a new book that I’ve written. And it’s all about the in fact, many of the subject areas that are going to be spoken about this evening. So it’s right on point. And the fact that you’re in this webinar now to find out more about these exciting, authentic offerings in the vertical stack degree program is wonderful. So why would you want to teach and be a secondary school teacher I’d like to suggest to you that your, about to, if you care to, into the greatest profession on and that is often said to me, I have a colleague in a school Cameron Patterson, and he gives out little tokens that actually give that kind of detail.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But as a secondary school teacher, it’s really about how you can spark imagination and curiosity in your students and in, in a D in a program in secondary teacher education, this is an opportunity for you to really develop those skills and understand pedagogy and practice. So it’s all about nurturing and guiding the, I guess, the next generation of global citizens. And that’s a really important task. And if you think back onto your own school education, I’m sure many of you can remember there was one or two Seminole teachers really made a great impact on who you become and what you’ve sought subsequently gone on to choose Pepsi in your career, your vocation, or perhaps in the way you choose to live your life. So it’s really important as a high school teacher to think about how you can nurture those students in front of you, not only academically, but in your, the relationships that you create them in order for them to be those global citizens and to create a better world for the future. There are many challenges. And of course, right in the midst of COVID-19 young people have been impacted. And so therefore the opportunity to think about how you as a subject teacher, within the sorts of disciplines that we’ll be talking about in a moment can really guide and serve them in terms of what they then choose to become ultimately when they graduate from this course, but also when they go and conduct their work in schools.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So we know from
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Various studies that secondary teaching will be one of the most in demand professions by 2025. And that, that stat is supported by a lot of recent reports, not only from within the OEC D but also more broadly within studies that have been conducted in Australia within our board of studies, or are necessary as it’s now referred to, many of you would, would know that name very and be very familiar to you. But so to our Australian teaching standards and the eights or Euro, so secondary education is a great choice. Now, what is that choice going to look like? So this unique vertical stack course combines an undergraduate degree with postgraduate, with a postgraduate degree in secondary education. And it’s going to target three areas, a bachelor of science that you can combine with a master of teaching in secondary education, a bachelor of communication, creative writing in a master of teaching in secondary education. And the third combination in what we’re calling our vertical stack is a bachelor of engineering studies and a master of teaching in secondary education. So what is unique about this particular degree program is that you actually can complete two degrees in four years. So the combination I should say, though, of engineering studies will take just a little longer in terms of the offerings. And my colleague, George will give you greater detail of that in one month.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So the teaching
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Specializations within those three areas move across particular areas. So English and what we’ve decided to incorporate this. And this has been, I I’m drawn from the sorts of demands where we know that teachers are required is in the area of E a L D. So English as an additional language or dialect, there are also, that’s going to be a minor in the area. And the other area that we’re looking to incorporate is human society and its environment that is not yet worked through in its fine detail in terms of history and geography. And that’s expected to come online in the near future, but certainly to kick off next year, there will be offerings in society and culture, which many of you who are just finishing school will be familiar with that particular program. And they are hallmarks of our bachelor of communications in creative writing.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
As I mentioned a moment ago, combined with the master of teaching and secondary education, the next area in terms of a degree offering, and George will speak specifically about this in a moment is the bachelor of science combined with a master of teaching. And that’s going to move across the area of the physical sciences, the life sciences and mathematics. And that will give anyone who chooses to study. Those disciplines are quite an advantage because of the way that we have structured that vertical stack. So you will be very marketable in terms of satisfying. What would be commonly known of as a lack of teachers within this particular area and the third area, which again, is very marketable in terms of the skills that you will develop in your own subject matter knowledge and the pedagogical approaches that you will learn through your contact with the education academics who will be supporting you is in the area of technology, technological and applied sciences and commonly referred to, and you will all know this term, I’m sure Taz.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And that has various components in engineering studies, industrial technology, information processes, software design, as well as the possibility for a minor in mathematics. So that’s a very exciting degree offering. That’s being really stepped right into the market now for school leavers, such as yourselves, and to be thinking about what is it that I could really choose to make a difference where I know there’s going to be an enormous future. So how it actually works is, is set out on your screen now. So in the very first year of the program, you will be doing your disciplines sub sub studies. So you will be building your subject matter knowledge. So SMK is that’s often called in I guess for those of us in education. So your subject matter knowledge that will be combined with creative, for example, you are creative writing and science, maths, and engineering subjects, depending on the, on the stream that you’re going to walk into.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So there’ll be a mix of discipline and education subjects in year two. And this is when you’ll start to do your professional experience in schools. And I know that having been in teacher education for a very long time, this is the air. This is students are hungry to get out into the field to have learnt some of the theory of their subject areas to improve their discipline knowledge, and then to actually put that into practicing classrooms. And so you’re going to be able to do that right from year two, this will progress then in year three to a greater amount of time in the classroom. And again, you’ll be focusing in on your discipline and subject matter knowledge and the pedagogical content knowledge that you’ll need in order to be able to teach that subject in the classroom. And in year three, that’s going to involve 30 days of professional experience in year four.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
There’s your will really be focusing in on the education part so that you’re really prepared for the classroom. There’ll be 40 to 42 days of professional professional experience that will enable you to secure that qualification and, and meet provisional accreditation requirements. So you can see that across the four years of that, of the program carefully stepped out. It leads to a total of 80 days in the field, which for somebody like myself, who’s been in teacher education for some time. Now that’s a very generous offering and will really put you on the front foot so that you’re well prepared for the classroom. So what I’d like to do now is I’d like to introduce you to George harp, and George is going to take you through the very necessary details so that you have a great understanding of what is involved in each of those vertical stack degree programs. So that’s over to you now, George,
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Thanks. Giant giant. Can you hear me? I can. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Hello everyone. And to welcome you to this webinar, and thank you for being with us, I sound a little bit repetitive during this presentation. It’s because I want to emphasize some key benefits for you. The student in undertaking these double degrees, as giant mentioned, we have three exciting combined the grades. Let’s take a closer look at these double degrees. The first one is the bachelor of communication in creative writing master of taking in secondary education. This four year double degree is made up of 12 communication subjects and 16 education subjects. In the first year of the program, you will only study communication subjects. In the two middle years, you do a combination of communication and education subjects. And in the fourth year of the program, it is made up of education subjects.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Only our strategic program structure transitions from subject content knowledge. In this case, in communication and creative writing to the application of this knowledge in the classroom, using contemporary effective teaching and learning pedagogies and practices, every experienced teaching team of writers publishes and industry professionals will guide you through your communication studies. Whilst ELL specialists, educators will ensure you graduate with the skills, the confidence and the competence report to take secondary English. So in four years, you graduate with two degrees, an undergrad degree, a bachelor of communications in creative writing and a post grad degree, a master of teaching in secondary education. Thanks, John, in this combined degree, there are three streams pathways. The chosen stream will determine what subjects you will be qualified to teach. The first stream qualifies you for a major in English. That is your first years. Teaching specialization is secondary English. The second strain, however, qualifies you for two teaching areas, a major in English as well as a minor in English as an additional language or dialect AI, L D similarly, the third stream qualifies you for a major in English and a minor in society and culture. This combined degree gives you alternative pathways. You choose the string that works for you in terms of subjects, and obviously interest. In addition to specialize in secondary English to have the streets you to teach an additional subject, say the English, a I L D or society and culture.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
There’s a very important point. I wish the mic here, the ability to teach multiple subjects in Hawaii demands subjects like English, English, a I L D, and society and culture will significantly increase your employment prospects, something well worth considering. Thanks, Jen. The second combined degree is the bachelor of science master of teaching in secondary education. This is another exciting combination. This four year double degree is made up of 16 science subjects and 16 education subjects. In the first year of the program, you will only study science and mathematics subjects. Again. In the two middle years, you do a combination of sites, mathematics and education subjects. And the formal year is made up of education subjects. Only again, our strategic program structure transitions from subject content knowledge in this case, science and mathematics, to applying this knowledge in the classroom, using contemporary effective teaching and learning pedagogies and practices throughout your bachelor of science or the science degree, you will study in state of the art facilities, including the site super lab, and the more technology advanced whole life super light, you will learn from some of Australia’s leading scientists and researchers. Walls are specialists. Educators will ensure your graduate with the skills, confidence and competence required to take secondary science and mathematics. In four years, you graduate with two degrees, an undergrad, a bachelor of science, as well as a postgrad, a master of teaching in secondary education, qualified to teach science and mathematics. Thanks, Jane, in this double degree, there are three streets.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
There are three, there are prerequisites for enrollment into these respective strengths. For example, should you wish to do physical sciences in chemistry and physics you’re required advanced mathematics, physics, or chemistry, and two units of English. The chosen stream will obviously determine what subjects you will be qualified to teach. The first string is the physical sciences in chemistry and physics. This qualifies you to teach in chemistry and physics and to have an additional teaching area in mathematics. Now within this dream, there are two substrates. The difference between the two sub streams is in relation to the number of chemistry and physics subjects you study. Should you have a passion for physics? The physical sciences in physics substring is the one for you. There are more physics subjects in that study program. Alternatively, if you are interested in chemistry, the physical solids in chemistry, substrate is the one for you.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It is very important to note, irrespective of the substrate undertaken here, you will be qualified to teach both physics and chemistry as well as mathematics. The physical sciences string in mathematics qualifies you with a first teaching area in mathematics, as well as a first teaching area in mathematics and physics. This means you can teach mathematics only. Should that be your preference, or you have the option of teaching both mathematics and physics. The third stream is the life sciences. This string qualifies you for multiple first teaching areas. These include biology, chemistry, earth, and evolve into science and investigating science. Or I wish to highlight a couple of advantages in doing this combined degree. As you can see this combined degree offers you multiple pathways, you choose the strain that works for you. In addition, all three streams qualify for you to teach in two or more disciplines. The ability to teach multiple subjects, particularly in demand subjects like mathematics, physics and chemistry will significantly increase your employment prospects. Again, something well worth considering. Thanks, Jen.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
The third combined degree is the bachelor of engineering studies master of teaching in secondary education. Another exciting combination, this double degree is made up of 20 engineering studies, subject and 16 education subjects. The engineering subjects include engineering subjects, information, technology subjects, and mathematics subjects. In the first year of the program, you will only study engineering studies subjects. In the remaining years, you do a combination of engineering studies and education subjects. We’ve significantly more education subjects towards the end of the course. Again, our strategic program structure prepares you and transitions you from subject content knowledge in the area of engineering studies to apply this knowledge in the classroom throughout your bachelor of engineering studies degree, you will study in our revolutionary engineering and it building including in the three D data arena and proto space labs. These facilities are second to none, and by all support all aspects of the advanced manufacturing process from component design, manufacturing, investigations, and prototyping through to the final product research and development, you will also draw on the expertise of the UTS faculty of engineering and oil to a faculty that is internationally recognized for its cutting edge research, practice based learning and extensive industry connections walls our highly specialist educators will again, ensure that you graduate with the skills, the confidence and the competence required to take secondary technological and applied studies test subjects.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So when just four and a half years, you graduate again with two degrees and undergrad degree, a bachelor in engineering studies and a postgrad degree, a master of teaching in secondary education, qualified to teach across a few test subjects. In this combined degree, you major in technological and applied studies PEs. What does that mean in terms of subjects that you’re qualified to teaching? Now this includes engineering studies, industrial technology graphics, and multimedia information processes and technology, software design, and development and information and software technology. This combined degree also qualifies you for an additional teaching specialization, a minor in mathematics. Please note, there are also prerequisites for enrollment into this double degree. You will require extinction mathematics, one physics and two units of English. Again, I wish to highlight a couple of benefits in undertaking this accelerating double degree. This combined degree will qualify you to teach multiple test subjects.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
In fact, a minimum of five subjects. In addition, you will also be qualified to teach junior mathematics, the ability to teach across multiple test subjects and to have mathematics as an additional teaching area. And again, I ate these in high demand subjects will significantly increase your employment prospects. There are three requirements for entry into these combined degrees. Firstly, you must attain an ITA equivalent to the respective bachelor’s degree or E the are required for a bachelor of science, bachelor of communication in creative writing or the bachelor of engineering studies. Secondly, have undertaken the prerequisite subjects for the combined degree. And thirdly, you will be required to submit a personal statement. This statement is an external requirement by education or authorities like NESA for all students or any students enrolling into any education courses.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Once in the double degree, there are two course progression requirements for you to remain in this combined degree. Firstly, upon completion of 96 credit points ordinarily after the first two years of your study, you need to achieve a credit average result across all your subjects and to satisfactorily complete the literacy and numeracy tests for initial education students, known as LANTITE. Again, this is an external requirement for all pre service teachers. You will be well supported drawing your first two years of study in preparation for this test in the event, you do not achieve a credit average by the end of the second year, or you do not satisfactorily complete lane taught you will be transferred to the relevant state alone bachelor’s degree. Thanks John.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, thank you George. So that’s a lot of detail to take in, but very necessary when you’re thinking about stepping into this exciting potential for a degree that will take you in a whole range of different areas within the secondary school context. And so what I’d like to suggest to you is that secondary education at UTS is really stepping off in what I would regard as some groundbreaking directions. And I say that because having written a new book that speaks to a lot of the areas that George has just detailed to you, and that is actually based on evidence in classrooms within Australian school. So what I’m saying then is that 80 days of practice is a really unique offering and it means that very quickly after you start to really more deeply understand your subject matter knowledge, you’re going to have the opportunity in your second year to start to test that out in the classroom.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And as I always used to say, it’s actually the best part of learning to be a teacher. And remember, of course, that a lifelong learning program of teaching is really what you stop from the moment you start your pre-service teacher education, but also at UTS, we have many school partnerships. We’re very lucky to work with Catholic schools with independent schools and the AIS, but also our very large public school system that I imagine is familiar to many of you. And so we have excellent relationships that have been built up over a long time with more than 200 schools and very excitingly our rural schools. And it’s been wonderful for me to see on our Twitter handle at Tom in our school of education that students and teachers and supervisors are actually being supervised by buyer zoom. And the zoom is actually providing wonderful feedback for students as they’re in remote locations, within new South Wales, we had such a big state and it’s really, I guess when you think about it, new South Wales that has sort of the land area of Germany.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So I really think it’s important to to think about not only teaching within an urban school, but also to, to spread your wings and think about what that might your teaching could look like in a rural or remote context. So we have lots of experienced supervisors that go into those places and you’ll be supervised very carefully across that time that you’re in schools. And we also have lots of people within the school of education. So not only teachers like George and myself, but we have a marvelous set of colleagues who have the highly skilled in their subject areas. And now with this new vertical stack degree, we’re going to be able to draw on the subject matter knowledge of discipline experts outside, but you will always come back to the school of international studies and education to do those components in, in terms of building your pedagogical repertoire in classrooms.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And that’s a really important part of learning to be a teacher. It’s not just the subject matter knowledge, but it’s how you then engage and motivate those young people in your classrooms. And so that’s, I think three really good reasons why you want, want to consider secondary education at UTS. So I just want to move now to we’re going to take some questions and I’m sure there are a number of you that would like to pose those. There’s been a couple that have been responded to in the chat box, but we’ll go more specifically to that in one moment. But before we do that, I just want to draw your attention to the career outcomes and job outlook. Now, each year they saw the graduate outcomes survey gives a lot of detail around where demands are in all careers, but in particular, at the moment we’re looking at really needing teacher teachers of languages other than English so that it not that’s commonly referred to as TESOL.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So last year, and this has actually been even a more recent step. We’re looking at around 90 to 92% now, as I’ve just a couple of days ago, I was reading those statistics that UTS graduates found employment. So that’s a pretty impressive statistic having done the sorts of courses that have been previously offered at UTS in teacher education. But, and we expect that that will, that figure in terms of graduate employability will continue to rise. So only I’m 40, I only 4.5% of those continued onto full time, you know, to study full time. But it’s part of that. What was really interesting in those stats that were released late last year is that the beginning salary for teachers who will have your qualifications and begins at around 68 K and then that steps up fairly rapidly to over or to just over a hundred, a hundred thousand to just under 110,000 per annum.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So those thoughts, those thoughts of salaries, statistics, you can find online, but the job outlook for secondary teachers is very positive. There’s consistent, future growth. There’s very low unemployment. And I guess something that I’ve noticed having been in this education game for many decades now is there’s a certain amount of flexibility that you get in, in being a teacher. So often it’s about that kind of work life balance and being able to, to not only we, we certainly don’t do our job for the holidays. I, I can assure you of that. However, it means that there’s greater flexibility and that might suit your family and personal aspirational needs. So whilst teachers vote work very hard during the weekend and often on a weekend, and certainly there’s preparation in holidays, it means that the work life balance can see can, can be somewhat more flexible that possibly you might find in other careers.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So I think there’s a lot of positives for not only the career outcomes, but also the ongoing job outlook. And I think what we’ve seen during COVID this year and during the pandemic teachers have been our frontline workers. They’re highly valued people in our society. And I think most parents and some of you may in fact, be accompanying your child this evening to this webinar will understand and possibly have been in the position of having to teach from home. And certainly I think our, our friends and colleagues in Victoria neighbors and, and family have really had to step up and do that remote teaching from home teaching at a distance, and to really come to see the role of teachers in our society in a very different ways. So I think that COVID has been good for the profession on the one hand, but that’s not to deny the huge challenges that for many other professions and across this time.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So I’d like now to step into our Q and a session. And I know that George is that they’re ready and there are other people that are on hand that can answer some questions, but we might just, I just have a look in the chat box to see if there are any other questions, but perhaps if you’d like to indicate with your hands up, I’m using that function, it would be a moment for you to have one of our panel respond. And certainly George is on hand to answer any questions. So do we have any further questions from our audience?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
There was a couple of questions here. George, do I need to meet the three band five requirements for teaching? That’s our first question to kick this section session off?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yes,
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Absolutely right that inour current degrees, the three band fives necessary luckily in a new programs because students will do a year of disciplinary study in the first year of the courses those Band 5 requirements can be waived.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So who will, what is Nessa necessary is the old board of studies. So that’s the that’s our accrediting agency that would, you would have known by that previous title and that is our national education standards or authority or the new South Wales standards, education or authority as it’s more colloquially referred to. So what are the benefits of a vertical stack in your opinion, George, would you like to jump into that question?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah. and giant, I’m just having a few issues accessing the questions that have been placed.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
That’s all right. I’ll, I’ll read those.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Thank you for ringing no up, but certainly one of the biggest advantages in the vertical stacking is at the end of the four years or four and a half years in the case of the engineering studies and master of teaching students graduate with both an undergrad degree, as well as a post graduate degree. And the other main advantage within the three combined degrees, there are multiple pathways that students are actually at the end of the day in complete control of which pathway best meets their needs. And as was saved from what we’ve mentioned earlier, within those streams, there are multiple subjects that students can end up teaching once they qualify so many, many advantages to the grades, obviously undergrad post grade, multiple pathways within each of those streams. And at the end of the day, our students qualify to teach in multiple subjects.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah. And so George, that’s such an advantage. I mean, that’s really quite you know, cutting edge and, you know, for somebody who’s been around teacher education or along as I, as I have, I think that’s wonderful. And then being able to have a few fingers in many pies, but drill down and get that deep subject matter knowledge. There’s a couple of questions about prac, one of which I I can answer it in terms of where can I, where can I pick where to do my practices? We do give students options to do that. And so in it’s usually encouraged that you move to different schools rather than doing, or your practice in one school, George one for you do I do my placements all at once or over time, I guess we’re going back to that slide where it had it stepped out from years two, three, and four. And can you do it in blocks of say 20 days or is it set in the way that was structured on that slide? Mike is asking that question. You
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Asked that question. Sorry. I was asking that question, Mike. Thank you. Thank you for ending for your question. In terms of dat base, they’re obviously spread out across your second year, third and your fourth year, and there’s a block towards the beginning, which is mainly an observation block where you go out and basically observe for eight days. The second block, there is a block where you go out into a school for about 30 days. And then there’s another observation day before you embark on your final practicum. So the 80 days income is comprised of two 30 day blocks where you actually do as 24 days of teaching and leading up to those two major blocks. There are two shorter blocks if you law, where you’re mainly there at the school observing, and I guess a climate ties in with the school culture and the expectations.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Excellent. Thank you, George. I’m just flipping back to eight, our requirements. I know you touched on this, but there’s a question here around what are the ATAR requirements for these courses, George? Yeah. Can I, I don’t know what they are off the top of my head, unless somebody else wants to obviously jump in, but certainly they are exactly the same as what the ITA would be for the respective bachelor’s degrees. So for example, if you want to get into, if you want to do the combination of the science with the master of teaching, you will need an ator equivalent to what it is for a bachelor of science saying for a bachelor of communications and exactly the same for a bachelor in engineering States. Yes. So you did touch on that before. Sorry, Jean, I’m just going to jump into, give the 2028 task selection rank for the three degrees, the three the bachelor of science, the bachelor of communication, creative writing, and the bachelor of engineering studies.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
So this just to be taken as a guide and it’s a selection rank, which means that it is your ATP plus any adjustment factors that you qualify for. So for the bachelor of science, the 2028 selection rank was 75.7. And for the bachelor of communication, creative writing was 72.95. We’re still finding out what the bachelor of engineering studies will be, but it will be updated on the website. So this is just to be taken as a guide, but it’d be around those figures. There’s not a lot of fluctuation. Great. Thanks so much, James. Now this is another question. No name next to
Speaker 1 (41:34):
It, but I wanted to become a chemistry teacher. I think that’s your forte, isn’t it? George? offer three vertical stack degrees, which is the best one for me.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, no good question. I mean, they’re all very good, but certainly, certainly I’d be looking at the physical sciences, the chemistry stream where you, whilst you qualify to teach both chemistry, physics as well as mathematics most of the subjects will be in the area of chemistry. So the answer to that question is the physical sciences, the chemistry strength.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Excellent. Thank you. There’s a question here about fee help. A fee help is as in the master of it education part of the combined vertical stack. Would you like to have a go at answering that question, George?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Sorry, Jane, what was the first bit of that?
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So, so there was a question around is the master of education able to be put on fee help and perhaps set up could actually jump into answer that question most specifically. Thank you, Jane. Thanks Jane. So the combined courses, which we refer to as the vertical stack there are actually CSP places available for these. So you’re not actually doing a separate course when you undertake the master of teaching in secondary education, you’re doing it all as one course. So the CSP places flow through for the whole degree. Lovely. Thank you so much SITA that’s. Yeah. Which is excellent. All right. And there was one last question. What is the vertical stack? And I think you’ve just answered that seizure in, in terms of what you’ve just said. And also, I think perhaps if whoever’s written that there would like to ask a further question around that.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
So are there any other questions that we seem to have exhausted our little, they were coming thick and fast at one moment. So I think that we could actually call our webinars to an end, George. So thank you so much for your very careful explanation of all of those aspects of this exciting new degree program. I mean, how fabulous that you can get two qualifications across the four year period, or if you’re going to do engineering, that’s a little bit more than, than four years, but I would really encourage you. Those of you that have stayed online and, and been interested to come along at the end of a long day to find out more about it. And I’d also ask you to think about going to the Q a session there’s people who are going to be able to respond to your questions after this webinar finishes.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
But if you are really wanting to find out what secondary school teachers do and have a little bit of a sense of that, I’m going to be taking a workshop at six 15, and you’re more than welcome to come along to that. And we’re going to, I’m going to show you some pretty fabulous work that’s being done by teachers in our schools, and to give you a sense of what it’s like to be a participant in our current degree programs. So I’ve, I’ve been at UTS for years, loved every moment of it. And T being a teacher, as I said, to start off this webinar this afternoon, welcome to the greatest profession on a, I might be a little bit biased, but I’m sure George will back me up on that assertion.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Absolutely. And Jane, can I just add one final comment just in relation to employment and you spoke about those wonderful statistics where 90 odd percent of our students find work on completion. One of the things for me that speaks volumes of the program that we run and this double degrees won’t be any different. A significant number of our students actually find employment in their formal year of study. And that speaks volumes of the students that we have, and obviously what they do when they’re on practicum and Al host structures allows a little bit of flexibility in the time table in their formal year, but particularly in the photo Sebesta for our students to be able to complete their studies whilst at the same time accepting those positions that come up early.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Fantastic. That’s wonderful. Thank you, George. That really important. And look, it was great to have you interacting and thank you for all your questions this evening. We’re really excited about this new program as I think is evident and we have Instagram, Facebook, and also Twitter, and you’re welcome to follow us on all the socials. And I just see what some of the current teacher education students get up to, but also those students in other faculties as well. So I’d invite you to have a look at those and don’t forget the secondary workshop at six 15. So perhaps dash off, have a cup of tea, have a quick drink of water and come back for the workshop at six 15. Thank you very much, everyone.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Thanks everyone. Thank you. Thanks John George, everyone.